The Symbolism of Evil

safe_imageThe situation is now perfectly clear. We are fully aware that Hillary Rodham Clinton will do literally anything for power and money. She will lie, cheat, steal, murder, and even sleep with the enemy in order to satisfy her insatiable appetite, her purely self-regarding lust for power and recognition. She has demonstrated on countless occasions and in exhausting detail that she has no concern for other persons or for the natural world, but an unrestrained self-love that forecloses on the possibility of caring for anyone or anything else. She is a classic sociopath from the word go.

But, perhaps her pathology is baked into our very culture. Many want to believe that Donald Trump embodies the worst of the dark side of the American soul. But, the truth is that Hillary Clinton reveals a much darker side, a darkness lurking in the very bowels of Western civilization, the very symbolism of evil, and those fascist hegemonies to which it continuously gives rise. Albeit, Ms. Clinton is not the only one at fault, however heinous her crimes and despicable her behavior or personality. And they are indeed heinous and deeply despicable. But, the system itself is grounded upon dissimulation and deception, propagated by those holding the reins and exercising the levers of power. Among the current cast of American hooligans we may also include self-consumed middle-earth peons like Barack Hussein Obama, Loretta Lynch, Bill Clinton, and James Comey… but these are only the tip of the ice berg, so to speak.

As I have stated on many occasions, the system itself was ill-conceived from the very start, based as it was upon an ethic of individualism, accumulation, competition, and a concomitant winner take all mentality. Equality and democracy are irreconcilable with such a political economics. They are incompatible by definition. So, while the verbiage of freedom, equality, etc., was proffered in the founding documents of the nation, they really had no social, ethical or economic basis. In short, the foundation was based upon smoke and mirrors, but now the fog of deception is beginning to lift as it was bound to in due time.

And, all the while, the power brokers are doing all possible to maintain their power and sustain the illusion that the system is working, that anyone can win, even a black man or a treacherous woman. Sure, the apparatus of democracy seems to remain in place, but decisions have already been made. And middle-earth peons like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, among a host of others, are given their orders to carry out those decisions. It is a classic symptom of hierarchy, the unquestioned backbone of civilization.

So, the problem is profoundly philosophical and complex. It is not merely a matter of fixing the delegate system, the legal system, the economic system, or the political system. It is a matter of transforming how people think and behave, changing their motivations, their desires, the relations among themselves. What distinguished the emergence of humanity (the Homo genus) from our primate cousins, was the capacity for sharing in small communal groupings. This enabled small tribal groups to grow and develop. Sharing also militated against any form of strict hierarchy. Even the elders contributed and shared.

Perhaps Rousseau was correct when, in “On the Origin of Inequality” he wrote:

The first man who, having fenced in a piece of land, said ‘This is mine,’ and found people naïve enough to believe him, that man was the true founder of civil society. From how many crimes, wars, and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not any one have saved mankind, by pulling up the stakes, or filling up the ditch, and crying to his fellows: Beware of listening to this impostor; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself to nobody.

As a society (in the US and Western Civilization globally) Rousseau reminds us, we willfully erased, in large measure, a primal capacity to share, and instead seek to privatize and own, expecting remuneration for all things, and payment in advance. We believe life is a zero sum game (and perhaps it has become that given the current limits to growth). We have not the capacity to see it as a positive sum game, and so we want as many marbles as we can get before they are all gone.

Hillary, I’m sure, is the poster child ~ a graphically evil example ~ of this propensity written into a mode of existence we have come to view as normal. We (I mean, obviously, a large American plurality) sees her as a fit representation of their dreams and aspirations. They applaud her winner-take-all, and take-no-hostages attitude. She is the heroine of a very sick game, embedded in a very sickened soul that has come to embody the core of our culture. The very symbolism of evil has become the symbol of success.

47 Responses to The Symbolism of Evil

  1. the Heretick says:

    Hillary Clinton is not just a power hungry poseur who will do absolutely anything to perpetuate the workings of the MIC, she is flat out incompetent, as is demonstrated by the debacle in Libya. That good “progressive” Democrats can close their eyes to the machinations of the National Endowment for Democracy is proof positive of the deep state of denial in which they lead their lives, oblivious to the misery and carnage engendered by their ignorance.

    Sure, Mo Qaddafi (Khaddafi?) was not the purest most pristine player upon the stage, but was he decapitating peasants in the public square? And not even with a nifty device such as the guillotine? Gotta give it to the French, when they wanted to spill some blood, they did it up right, but I digress.

    So, you go in, you overthrow a country, get the leader killed, dragged like a dog thru the streets, then to top it all off, you get your Ambassador roasted like a rack of ribs, lovely. Forget the e-mails, the self-server, and all the rest of the hoopla surrounding this harridan, the lady is just not very good at her job. Point being, if the good old USA insists upon maintaining 1,000 military bases around the planet, fomenting coups, and overthrowing govts. here and there, let us at least have someone in charge who is not an idiot.

    How these soft headed people who are so concerned about human rights (and the 58 different flavors of Facebook) can be so willfully blind to the shenanigans of their preferred profiteer is well beyond my computing capacity.

  2. Disaffected says:

    You go Sandy! Great to hear that voice of outrage back again! Great graphic too!

    I think you misjudge HRC’s intentions there HT. The “goal” in all these overseas entanglements is not to “win” any one specific entanglement, and certainly not to improve conditions on the ground for the local inhabitants caught up in it. Rather, it is always first and foremost to spread war and destruction (ka-ching!, ka-ching!) willy nilly, which then prompts ever new possibilities for even more entanglement and ka-ching! ka-ching! action. Of course the longer game is to draw Russia, Iran, and/or China into one or more of these affairs too and begin to bleed them of blood and treasure as well (something they’ve all been wise enough to avoid while watching with some amusement as the US leviathan saps its own “vital fluids” making war on phantom creatures created by its own paranoid imagination). But failing all that, the nuke programs are ramping up again with visions of “making the world safe for democracy” via the wonders of the hydrogen bomb, a 20’th century delusional leftover reheated (no doubt in a microwave oven) and served afresh for a naively gullible 21st century audience. But hey, the kids don’t read history anymore and what they don’t know can’t hurt them anyway (their deaths will mostly be short and fairly merciful, crowded as they will be in close proximity in their mega-city mega-targets). No doubt the Evangelical Christians among them will see the flash and imagine it’s little baby Jesus returning triumphantly just for them!

    But hey, on the bright side, if ever their was a hideous creature meant to play the role of the “rough beast slouching toward Bethlehem to be born,” it’s certainly Hillary Clinton!

    • the Heretick says:

      My dearest DA, where? Pray, did I ever say we wanted to win? Unless of course winning is defined as keeping the world in turmoil, and making it safe for the transit of the goods and commodities of the bloodsucking vampire squid of global trans-national capitalism?

      So, you see, everything is fine don’tcha know, nothing to see here.

      • Disaffected says:

        If we’re the world’s largest reserve – and I wouldn’t doubt it as SA’s been lying for years, and we’ve known that they were all long – then we’re all in a world of shit, because their counting every last drop of dreg oil that can possibly be recovered over here, and most of that’s nowhere close to being economical to produce. Thus the reasons for having all the wars now IMO. In a few years we won’t have enough energy left to fight one without resorting to lobbing the nukes, at which point there simply won’t be any point in fighting one any more. Last Robber Barron standing and all that. Walk Hard HT, you feral dog!

  3. Disaffected says:

    And the US Gestapo Police continue their national rampage:

    Armed cowards with badges. Shameful fucking shit! The dipshit will no doubt get a medal for it.

    • the Heretick says:

      This latest homicide is truly egregious, sure looks to be shaking out as cold-blooded murder, but hey! What else is new, who’s counting? A drone strike here, a drone strike there, cops killing, cops killed, bankstas and gangstas, inside out/outside in, Pavlov’s dogs. And if anyone is keeping tally, you going to trust the figures.

      Ah, yes the warm glow of spent nuclear fuel, so homey.

      • Disaffected says:

        The media is already turning this into a referendum on the necessity of a “robust police presence” to deter homegrown terror, so we can already see where this is headed. If this wasn’t a synthetic terror event, the timing sure was advantageous. Gunmen (1 dead) are currently estimated at one to four or more (with “extensive planning and tactical expertise”), so this will get interesting before it’s all over. Let the spin cycle begin!

        • Disaffected says:

          Smells strongly synthetic already. Looks like only one shooter now instead of many (check), who was conveniently killed (check) by a bomb toting robot (a first!), and whose motives and words (quotes!) are now being freely attributed posthumously by the “valiant(!) and heroic(!)” police officers, official investigators, and media hacks (check) – all hallmarks of synthetic terror events. Among other things, the pretext for police crackdowns at the upcoming political conventions is now in place, and god only knows what sort of draconian legislation this will unleash by our Congress Clowns in DC. It’s almost as if the dumb-asses in charge know that we’ve all had enough and are preparing to quash any prospective uprising in its tracks. Imagine that! I think we’ve got MUCH WORSE soon to come.

      • Disaffected says:

        And Baton Rouge now too. Wow! Whether synthetic or the real deal, somebody’s turning up the heat in earnest! I think this sucker’s gonna blow soon!

      • Disaffected says:

        Not to worry though. We ‘Muricans just love us some “law and order” under the watchful gaze of the National Security State.

        • Disaffected says:

          Just a passing observation, there have been A LOT of “terrorism” incidents across the world of late – even by current standards, coincidentally (or not?) syncing up with an attempted coup in Turkey, BREXIT in Britain, and of course the ‘Murican shit show in politics. I wonder…

  4. the Heretick says:

    Highbrow propaganda from PBS.

    No doubt aimed at potential Hillary voters, so that she can continue Obama’s “legacy”, who is given a total pass on his continuation of the ravages of the MIC.

    • Disaffected says:

      U.S., NATO troop buildup in Eastern Europe to counter Russians is largest since Cold War.

      Love that headline. To counter Russians. Hmm… what’s just on the other side of Eastern Europe? Why Russia of course! And who lives in Russia pray tell? Why Russians of course! And what do Russians sometimes call Russia? Their homeland of course! So why in the hell do Russians living in Russia need to be “countered,” by American interlopers from 2 continents away no less, who have more than enough problems of their own to deal with? Crickets…

      The situation grows ever more ominous by the day now. Those end of days 2020 forecasts are looking better and better all the time. One almost hopes that the lid comes off the boiling cauldron here at home first to prevent the MIC from getting into any more foreign mischief, although I sincerely doubt that even that will stop them.

  5. Terry David says:

    Wow, KC. The final three lines of the essay pack a particularly visceral punch. They virtually spat off the page!

    I used to think that the general public was merely duped and actively misinformed with regard to atrocities done in our name. Sadly, I’ve come to think that a genocide’s worth of the public would celebrate the atrocities. The belligerent selfishness I see in people now is …is … worthy of the damnation expressed in your last three lines.

    Once the Fairness Doctrine in broadcasting was cast aside, the full court press of propaganda and scapegoating just became overpowering. The scapegoating of the powerless and lionizing of the rapaciously powerful has succeeded in creating a body politic that doesn’t blush at the asymmetrical punishment meted out to small nations and unarmed peoples by the Gigantic MIC. The Underdog? To paraphrase the ever eloquacious Victoria Nuland, “F*ck the underdog!” The intended audience internalized and identified with the message just as the concert masters predicted. They’ve been carefully nurturing (if one can even use that word in this context) the dark side of the nation. Half the country has been sheeped up and dumbed down. The other half has been dumbed down and belligerized.

    We always live partially in the minds of the power brokers by virtue of living in a culture bent and twisted to their will. I don’t use Faceberg because I can feel that I’d be living partway in Zuckerberg’s mind. And now we in the West live in the creations of the minds of the likes of Karl Rove, the Kagan clan, and Paul Wolfowitz et al. And those NATO generals. Breedlove. McMaster. Damn. It makes me feel filthy to accept any intelligence at all that comes from the establishment as it now exists. Pure poison.

    I don’t know where we go from here.

    As a lighter aside, I sort of miss the distant past where I would compose anything I wrote on a manual typewriter. Emotion and intensity translated directly to increasingly bold type. The last period would pierce the paper, as I imagine this essay would have done down the line as you wrote it. Cathartic sometimes. Kinda hard to blog with one though.

  6. Disaffected says:

    And the email sideshow continues:

    At this point, I think it’s all kabuki. The GOP pretending to be indignant and the dems barely pretending to give a shit. If that’s the case, the election has been fixed in HRC’s favor for sure.

    • Disaffected says:

      Watching a rerun of the Lance Armstrong documentary Lance Armstrong: Stop at Nothing this morning, I’m struck by the similarities between Armstrong and the Clintons. Both were/are supremely arrogant and both realize that they’re bigger than the game/endeavor they’re playing. The chief differences are that Armstrong kept his deception secret for longer and came completely unraveled once the truth was revealed, while HRC and BillyBob have seemed to revel in the facts once they were exposed and will likely continue to remain in defiance for the rest of their days. Big as he was, Lance Armstrong was just a small time hood compared to the Clintons, who it appears will be running things again in just a few months. Me thinks HRC is going to have a little rougher time of it this time however, as there will definitely be no “honeymoon” period for such a widely known openly corrupt gang of criminals. Lets just hope they don’t kill us all before they can be routed out of power again and into the gutter where they belong.

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  9. the Heretick says:

    All too believable, dirty dealings behind the scenes, and still the DNC juggernaut rolls on. Words cannot express my disappointment in Senator Sanders, instead of denouncing this schemer, he goes ahead and endorses her! Of course it’s the Russians fault.

    • Disaffected says:

      Definitely an “ah-ha!” moment. LOTS and LOTS of people on the internet yesterday recanting their support for the Bern. I’d like to think he had a better reason than just kissing the ring of the heir apparent, but I honestly can’t think of what it would be. If nothing else, this will harden the resistance to the Clinton machine among we the peeps, which is MUCH STRONGER than the MSM is letting on.

      And if the dumb bitch does somehow manage to get elected, I think she’s going to find the going VERY ROUGH indeed. Don’t know that the fat old hag has it in her to deal with that every day. But the key thing to watch for will be the GOP resistance to her on day one. If she’s not indicted within the first 90 days – even if it’s just a show trial – we’ll know that the fix was/is in for her, either pre- or post-election. And that will be an even bigger problem, as we’ll all know FOR SURE that all this kabuki was exactly that – a FUCKING SHOW – and that the two legacy parties are in fact one and are playing us all for fools.

      With HRC, Inverted Totalitarianism will finally officially rule the land. No more velvet glove concealing the iron fist beneath, just open corruption on the part of the ruling wealthy class, and ruthless suppression for everyone else. Beat the rush and Sieg Heil for Hillary baby! It’s soon to be all the rage!

      • Disaffected says:

        Rumor has it she’s even planning to grow a little Fuhrer ‘stache for the inauguration! Gotta respect that in woman! Balls of steel and facial hair to match!

  10. Terry David says:

    The Nurse Diesel of politics. Only much, much less comical.

    I can’t unsee it now!

  11. the Heretick says:

    “while the verbiage of freedom, equality, etc., was proffered in the founding documents of the nation, they really had no social, ethical or economic basis”

    Indeed, to vote in the first election held in this country a person had to be white, male, free (not indentured or a slave), a property owner (or pay a poll tax), and declare a belief in a Christian god, they don’t teach this in the history books. This country has always been run for the propertied classes, now with globalism this philosophy is on steroids, and it is obviously pushing this country over the edge.

    Please note there has been absolutely no discussion of curtailing the rights of corporations, not in any meaningful way, such as declaring that corps. are not people and have no free speech rights other than advertising their products, but certainly should nit be allowed to contribute to political campaigns in any way, shape, or form.

    Of course we wish the duopoly would put up better candidates than the choices we have before us, but it just ain’t happening.

    • Disaffected says:

      Nope! The democracy for the little people meme has been put paid for all to see. Just another step toward complete Inverted Totalitarianism. It’ll work until it doesn’t, and I, like a lot of other people these days, don’t see it working all that much longer. The Bern movement showed that at least the sentiment for change is out there, but it will never succeed within the current corrupt system. That might be the one takeaway from his endorsement of the Queen. A simple recognition that within the current system she’s the only kind of candidate that can win. The lesson is obvious: the current system must be brought down altogether; whether by hook, by crook, or by nuclear war.

  12. Disaffected says:

    Trump’s looking more and more like a scarecrow now, making much ballyhooed faux pas left and right and the lapdog MSM dutifully piling on every last one of them. I’m beginning to suspect like many others out there that this whole thing might have been nothing more than a (possibly well compensated) publicity stunt for the Trump brand to give the Black Queen a free run in the fall. Trump enhances his brand in a way nothing else could do, the steam gets dissipated from up in arms populists, and HillBillary (they’re a true Janus coin set!) gets to become joint presidents again and preside over the dismantling of whatever’s left of America’s sham democracy. And oh yeah, give the MIC their next big war. Oh to be a fly on the wall at HRC’s first official meeting with Vlad!

    • kulturcritic says:

      VLAD, the impaler!

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    • the Heretick says:

      The more the Trumpster spews impolitic comments, the more he is attacked, the higher his stock goes. People in the country are sick of the BS, more and more wage-earners are in dire straits, they are ready for the Messiah. If Billary makes it in? God help us all. At this point, with the latest oil projections, combined with population trends, etc. etc. Business as usual ain’t gonna cut it, this is the truth, we will not manage our way out of the crisis which is upon us, and it is upon us.

      • Disaffected says:

        We’ll have to see how it goes HT. He’s definitely grabbing headlines, but this is all starting to feel scripted now to me. Remember, Trump’s JOB is to stir up the masses. I feel like a fall synthetic terror event of major proportions might be in the offing to get them all cooled off again, or who knows, maybe the next economic crisis, which is long overdue as well. It’s gonna be a wild election season either way.

  13. Disaffected says:

    I love the fans gushing at the start of this video. And I love the fact that my first impression of Natalie Merchant back when I first heard of her back in her 10,000 Maniacs days was that she was yet another uppity young female singer selling herself with nothing worthwhile to say. Wow(!!!), is it a pleasure to live so long to be exposed as so horribly wrong! This woman is truly a treasure for our times and all others!

  14. Disaffected says:

    Well, to hear the US MSM tell it at least, Trump is going down in flames now with every ill-advised utterance. I’ve decided to tune it all out now until after the election. I have no plans to vote either way, as I agree with Trump’s utterance that the election will likely be fixed anyway – as if getting HRC excused from what are clearly felonious charges already doesn’t count as a fix in and of itself. That said, I’m not entirely sure that Trump is on the up and up either or that he’ll actually make a difference for whatever reason if he does get elected, so no matter what specious logic somebody tries to throw at me between now and then, I’m simply going to refuse to engage the beast.

    Strangely, the worse things get all around us, the better I seem to feel. After a recent fairly serious high blood pressure scare, I cut down on my drinking, cut down on my obsessiveness with exercise as a “countermeasure,” and just about everything else to boot. Life is suddenly looking quite a bit brighter as I close in on 60, even as (mostly because?) I simply expect a lot less. Unfortunately, that’s the story for most of type A personalities. We spend our whole life obsessing about the minutiae, and only too late wake up to realize all the good things we missed along the way. But I’m not worried about even that anymore, as it was all part of the process and I wouldn’t change a thing.

    Not to say that I’m still not a died-in-the-wool “doomer.” Part and parcel of being “all good” with things IS NOT adopting rose-colored glasses, but simply accepting things as they are for better; worse; or, in our case; MUCH, MUCH, worse. Accordingly, I’d like to recommend Steve from Virginia who posts on his own blog Economic Undertow and Doomstead Diner. He’s the logician I always wished I could be; systematic, disciplined, rigorous, thorough, unforgiving, and perhaps most importantly intellectually and intuitively compelling. In fact, his writing reminds me of nothing so much as William R. Catton’s in his still preeminent 1982 treatise on the subject, Overshoot. I see now that it’s finally available on Kindle, so I’m going out there to buy it (I own the paperback already). To everyone else, no matter what version you read, I challenge you to READ IT(!!!), and you will FINALLY understand in some small way what a TRULY DIRE and IRREVERSIBLE predicament we are in.

    And so I’ll leave you with another unadulterated truth teller, Colorado State’s own Dr Albert Bartlett (part 1 of 8) who makes it so easy a 3rd grader can understand it:

  15. Disaffected says:

    Just an AMAZING rendition of the CLASSIC “cowbell’ anthem(!) a BUNCH of years later. The musicianship here is just SUPERB(!):

    • Disaffected says:

      And the definitive song of an old man to his younger self:

      • Disaffected says:

        I’ve always thought that the true ironic beauty of this song lies in its multiple levels of irony in both the present and past tense. First of all, it’s an old person singing to his (presumably) or her younger self about the futility and meaninglessness of western existence, but second of all, it’s about the songwriter/singer himself who’s singing the lyrics, and his relationship to them as well. And lastly, it’s about the listeners (and in this case audience members) themselves, and THEIR relationship to the song’s lyrics as well.

        Obviously, David Gilmour and Pink Floyd have done very well for themselves over the years, as they surely knew they would by the time they first penned this lyric. But as I watch a rather rotund and satisfied Gilmour sing these lyrics here all these years later I can’t help but wonder if he’s not more than a little bit wistful about what they truly mean. Likewise the audience members.

        Wish You Were Here is NOTHING if not a MASTERFUL youthful commentary on the inherent dissatisfaction of a contented middle age coasting on your laurels in the west, content and reliant upon the assurances of the corporate machine. The EXACT SAME position Gilmour and presumably most of his audience in the video find themselves in now.

        Oh the deliciousness of that irony!

    • Disaffected says:

      Another great Floyd song, originally penned for/about Syd Barrett, but ultimately, equally apropos for any and/or all of us:

    • Disaffected says:

      My condolences to the unwitting fan who got caught on video at 1:00 leering rather stupidly at the camera. That’s always been my fear as well. But I’ve got to say, this is BY FAR THE BEST of the tribute/legacy band renditions of their original hits that I’ve ever heard! Simply FANTASTIC musicianship on display for mostly 60+ year old performers here!

  16. Disaffected says:

    Why is this guy in the R&R HOF you might ask? The man we would all like to be if we only had the cojones and the talent.

  17. Disaffected says:

    HRC may or may not have pneumonia, in September no less! One can only hope it’s fatal. DIE bitch, DIE!!!

    • Disaffected says:

      Looks like it’s very likely Parkinson’s now. If so, something nefarious is definitely going on, as her handlers no doubt know what’s going on. This sounds sensational at first blush, but it sounds pretty damn credible after you listen to Dr. in the interview. One things for sure, she won’t be cover it up all the way to November.

      • kulturcritic says:

        AGREED DA – I think its HUGE!!

        • Disaffected says:

          Just talked to my mom, who hadn’t heard about this yet. The fact that Fox News isn’t all over this yet supports my suspicions that there’s an “agreement” of sorts among the “Illuminati” (for lack of a better word, I’m aware of the connotations) to let this thing go forward. Anyone’s guess what the larger agenda is at this point, but the bottom line is that the lies and deceit continue to come as if from a fire hose from the HRC camp. One can only imagine what they’re trying to hide.

      • Disaffected says:

        Watch for “tells” during the upcoming debate Monday night, even though the Clinton team is sure be on their game for this event by maximizing timing for meds and therapies to minimize them:
        * Extended or even repeated routine coughing/choking fits.
        * Hand concealment and/or props for exposed hands.
        * Any spells of attention deficit or “freezes.”
        * Any excuse for a bathroom break or similar, especially if it’s extended.
        * Any obviously inappropriate facial expressions, gestures, and/or utterances
        Best case: the bitch melts down on national TV and the ruse is exposed, or at the very least, the voters are persuaded that this carnival shit show needs to be stopped.

        • kulturcritic says:

          “Best case: the bitch melts down on national TV and the ruse is exposed, or at the very least, the voters are persuaded that this carnival shit show needs to be stopped.” LOVE YoU, DA! LOL

        • Disaffected says:

          I watched the first 15 minutes of the side show before calling it a night. The only tics I observed were by Trump, as he appeared to snort for breath a few times when talking. I think he was just keyed up for the occasion. He’s a pretty poor debater. If HRC is actually ailing it appeared that they had her meds dialed in for the occasion. Pretty sad display when you consider that these two are apparently the best the US could do after 8 years of an empty suit in office. But debates are increasingly irrelevant anyway. Candidates realize they can say that they stand for pretty much anything and then do as they please later. Obama set the standard in that regard. He’ll be a hard act to follow.

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